tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post4018528010091668908..comments2024-03-18T03:28:36.581-04:00Comments on Shrink Rap: How Much for Access to APA Mtg Talks?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-76780052292474429722009-09-22T03:40:59.842-04:002009-09-22T03:40:59.842-04:00Treated. Grrr.Treated. Grrr.nardilfannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-85757053482566492372009-09-22T03:39:45.029-04:002009-09-22T03:39:45.029-04:00Wow, the doc who prescribed me phenelzine is one o...Wow, the doc who prescribed me phenelzine is one of the doctors on that list, giving a presentation! Cooool. Supercool. I've been trated by a celebrity! <br /><br />Ahem.nardilfannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-34365221742929068122009-06-02T23:24:10.036-04:002009-06-02T23:24:10.036-04:00Hi there,
I ventured over to the APA from Austral...Hi there, <br />I ventured over to the APA from Australia and really enjoyed the content, but was disappointed about the lack of materials included in the price; I enrolled for 2 fullday workshops at the cost of $400 US dollars on top of my non APA member fee. It was also very disappointing to not have a blank notepad let alone a synopsis of slides for the main lectures. I obtained my CD ROM but wouldn;t want much more; I think some of these materials should have been included in the price. On another note, Maureen McCormick was enlightening and to see Irvin Yalom was truly a career highlight.Helen Schultzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03183871461920373257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-47294839788412133662009-05-26T22:49:31.700-04:002009-05-26T22:49:31.700-04:00Retriever-While I understand where you are coming ...Retriever-While I understand where you are coming from, I don't see how that model would be sustainable (free). It would cost a fair bit to record, edit, & produce the video of the talk. How else would that be paid for. Additionally, the economy is hitting the APA hard (like every one else) at the same time that the tide is turning against pharmaceutical company sponsorship, so new sources of revenue need to be developed. Also, if it was given away for free, then attendance at meetings would go way down, there'd be nobody to give the talk to, and that would be that. I don't think people would be very motivated to give a talk just to a camera. Finally, most of these talks (except for maybe the poster sessions and some of the research sessions) are not paid for by research money but are reviews of topic areas, rather than a single research study.Royhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08735111026336537653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-11225869786100797462009-05-26T21:07:07.507-04:002009-05-26T21:07:07.507-04:00Put them on ITunes or set up another site independ...Put them on ITunes or set up another site independently of Apple and share it for free. That's the best use of the Internet. There is so much bilge on mental health that they have on Itunes right now (a few select exceptions, obviously). <br /><br />In fact. here is another radical suggestion: abolish the system of forcing people to pay $15 or whatever for a day's access to decent clinical research pieces on line. It smacks of guild secrecy and is totally unnecessary. Researchers get grants to do the research, so why charge tolls for people reading their work? Don't they want to share their findings with a wider audience? <br /><br />Imagine Open Course Ware for psychiatric and psychological research as MIT and Cambridge University and others are already doing. Wouldn't it be better to publicize decent research than leave people to read the drivel in popular magazines or dumbed down AOL articles???<br /><br />My library never stocked any books or research articles on the conditions my son has variously been diagnosed with so the only time I could study the literature was once when a sympathetic resident at the hospital let me use their library (while kid was there), or else ordering interlibrary loan books which can take weeks to arrive. Obviously I bought a lot initially mail order, but stuff gets outdated so quickly.Retrieverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09036341287285545932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-84730101674106433022009-05-26T08:47:06.967-04:002009-05-26T08:47:06.967-04:00Long post: yeah, I thought about linking to the co...Long post: yeah, I thought about linking to the course list, but it is a 2MB pdf and not as easily scanned by eye.<br /><br />Karla: I'm thinking downloads will get reposted on blogs and emailed around too much, thus the long access to watch again. What do you think?<br /><br />what happens in a year: well, the NEXT annual meeting. Since it is streaming, I thought ongoing access until the next set came out made sense. Maybe it should just be until the next meeting, rather than "1 year". If it is just one time (ie, 1 viewing), than you'd have to pay again if you missed something, so some time period makes sense. I guess it could be shorter.<br /><br />The problem with the grab bag approach is the price might be too much--it will not be cheap to professionally record all 600 talks (or even a portion of them), and then manage the website and bandwidth costs. I guess if it were, say, 24 hrs access, a charge of maybe $99 might work (ie, how many will one watch in a day?). <br /><br />I was thinking more about a way for folks who HAD purchased and viewed to write reviews (think iTunes) or to comment or discuss (think YouTube) about the specific talk. Maybe there could be like 30-second excerpts that could be watched. Finally, I'm pretty sure that each talk has an abstract written by the author(s), so the abstract could be linked to.<br /><br />Also keep in mind that it would have to priced such that member access is significantly cheaper but still does not lose money (maybe a one price for all deal for members?) -- after all, the main reason for the meeting is for APA member education/benefit. It might be that an appropriate nonmember price would simply not be attractive, but I'm thinking that such a treasure chest of gems (and duds!) is too good to just hoard for members only.<br /><br />I appreciate the brainstorming on this. Other thoughts?Royhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08735111026336537653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-27746527234514311792009-05-26T03:18:00.287-04:002009-05-26T03:18:00.287-04:00As someone not in psychiatry, I'll say that I ...As someone not in psychiatry, I'll say that I might be interested in some of these talks but that it's hard to tell from the titles which ones I would actually appreciate and which (from my perspective) would turn out to be duds, e.g. too narrow or too technical to be of use. So from that point of view, even $8/talk is too much. And to be honest, if I was sure if I wanted to see & hear a talk, why would I need access to it for a year? I can take notes.<br /><br />Of more interest would be a browsing model, i.e. access to a set of talks (possibly of my choosing) for a price, for a period of time. Kind of like a grab bag. <br /><br />So what happens after a year? That's the sell-by date and everything is free? (Some of it will be in print by then, of course.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-43369552488122020492009-05-25T22:08:37.180-04:002009-05-25T22:08:37.180-04:00This is the world's longest blog post.
http://www....This is the world's longest blog post.<br />http://www.freefoto.com/images/01/08/01_08_52---Duck_web.jpgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-14798991743539390692009-05-25T06:59:11.972-04:002009-05-25T06:59:11.972-04:00S6 and S10 - I'd pay $25 a year to stream them, or...S6 and S10 - I'd pay $25 a year to stream them, or rather more to download.<br /><br />With the author's permission, I'm <A HREF="http://aebrain.blogspot.com/2009/05/brain-gender-identity-presentation-by.html" REL="nofollow">mirroring the slides</A> for one of the talks in S10, and an extensive list of references. I've been in contact with Dr Ecker, and other researchers in the area.<br /><br />The evidence for a neuroanatomical cause for transsexuality is just plain being ignored by the sexual disorders group, in favour of neo-freudian theory.<br /><br />I expect a huge to-do, and outright rejection of the recommendations, if they remain <A HREF="http://aebrain.blogspot.com/2009/05/youve-got-to-be-crazy-baby.html" REL="nofollow">as stated in the recent STARS conference</A>.<br /><br />The initial proposals pathologise, inter alia, masturbation, and any sexual activity not resulting in, or expected to result in, intercourse. As well as any attraction to anyone not "phenotypically normal" - too thin, too fat, transsexual, amputee etc.<br /><br />It appears that "somatically normal" means of either sex, and intercourse can be anal. But attraction to anyone disfigured, transsexual, phenotypically intersexed, disabled etc or any sexual behaviour not leading to intercourse is pathologised.<br /><br />All such cases will be <I>assessed</I> as <I>paraphiliac</I>, and if distress is caused then the patient will be <I>diagnosed</I> with a <I>paraphillic disorder</I>.<br /><br />Well, I always thought any guy would have to be crazy to be attracted to a woman like me, but to have any such attraction to be diagnosed (or assessed) as paraphilliac by its very nature is going a little far.<br /><br />Transgendered people have had misgivings (to say the least) about the composition of the sexual disorders group, with CAMH and Conservative Catholicism between them providing the largest single bloc. Hence the <A HREF="http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/11128/gid-reform-now-protest-at-annual-apa-meeting-speaker-kelley-winters-ph-d" REL="nofollow">demonstrations</A> outside, with promininent MDs speaking. But no-one expected anything quite so extreme, even from them.Zoe Brainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13712045376060102538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-2221910890441031642009-05-25T00:29:19.740-04:002009-05-25T00:29:19.740-04:00Great post Roy, I think this is really relevant. I...Great post Roy, I think this is really relevant. I would support paying for the talks, but I wouldn't be happy with paying and then not having the option to download.Ownerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13808012399153910868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-9829466499964511892009-05-24T13:23:05.191-04:002009-05-24T13:23:05.191-04:00I should clarify that this is just for brain-storm...I should clarify that this is just for brain-storming, not official policy or anything. I'm not speaking for the APA, but am trying to do some idea generation.<br /><br />I have no reason to think that the CDs would not still be sold. One of the advantages to online is that you see the slides that the speaker is referring to.Royhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08735111026336537653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-38686996368027448122009-05-24T12:16:50.409-04:002009-05-24T12:16:50.409-04:00In the past the APA used to sell mail order tape r...In the past the APA used to sell mail order tape recordings, then later audio CDs of the sessions.<br />Better than online access these recordings could be passed from one person to the next.<br /><br />Will they no longer be sold?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com