tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post6963671448053520803..comments2024-03-18T03:28:36.581-04:00Comments on Shrink Rap: Personality Disorder?: Chloe O'Brian from "24"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-70915351483093073832016-04-27T14:35:24.664-04:002016-04-27T14:35:24.664-04:00She is textbook aspergers.
Her flat affect and soc...She is textbook aspergers.<br />Her flat affect and socially awkward features are the reason i feel this.<br />She is also uncomfortable with praise as she herself says in season 8. She has a difficult time saying thankyou when complimented and if the compliment is something she herself feels is apparent she will say "i know" i.e<br /> Season 4 she is told she is the best analyst CTU has and she agrees.<br />She is very uncomfortable with sexual interactions between people and finds it offensive when one person has a crush on another.<br />I have aspergers.<br />It is very hard to guage what the proper responses are in social situations until long after the occurance when i am extraordinarily obsessed with thinking it over with many scenarios as to how i should have handled it making mental notes to NOT repeat my bad or ill timed response. Which, in fact? I do anyhowDianne Schuch Lindseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16641137193641101228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-57317853401311587222013-08-28T03:37:56.473-04:002013-08-28T03:37:56.473-04:00Chloe is definitely NOT borderline. She is far too...Chloe is definitely NOT borderline. She is far too stable for that and reasonable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-87299066678436793672010-01-07T03:24:31.487-05:002010-01-07T03:24:31.487-05:00This is a clear case of Aspergers. The Borderline ...This is a clear case of Aspergers. The Borderline Personality Disorder is waaaaaay far from the mark. Someone clearly knows nothing about that disorder! Schizoid might be realistic if the Aspergers wasn't so obvious. However, Chloe seems to be an Aspie who's had therapy and is trying to recognize and change her habits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-87857327382749522512007-09-21T13:35:00.000-04:002007-09-21T13:35:00.000-04:00BPD should be out of the DSM.BPD should be out of the DSM.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-59007801546594084552007-09-19T15:35:00.000-04:002007-09-19T15:35:00.000-04:00Does she sleep with a stuff animal and wear big fu...Does she sleep with a stuff animal and wear big furry slippers when she's at home? That's another indication of BPD. I know, you aren't going to find that in any medical book, but it's true. I see it all the time on our unit.Mother Jones RNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01298418463273622952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-76117637179980297402007-09-18T09:37:00.000-04:002007-09-18T09:37:00.000-04:00I think they could do animated characters . . . . ...I think they could do animated characters . . . . I'm thinking General Woundwort from Watership Down (granted that's based on a book with a depth to the characters not found in most animation).<BR/><BR/>Miss Piggy comes to mind. So does Animal, but I prefer him to her, lol! I'm more of a Beaker type.<BR/><BR/>Actually, according to a what muppet are you thing a while back, I'm actually Gonzo . . . . now THAT is fitting (tee hee!)<BR/><BR/>I think he's tragically misunderstood . . . .<BR/><BR/>Ack, my train of thought derailed again. Ah, well.<BR/><BR/>Cael from Titan A.E., or the dude that was his father's friend . . .Sarebearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09208596053319110470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-6815437174882959132007-09-17T05:02:00.000-04:002007-09-17T05:02:00.000-04:00Out of curiosity, do you think you'd be able to ma...Out of curiosity, do you think you'd be able to make the same type of commentary on a cartoon character (I'm thinking of quagmire from Family Guy) or does this type of analysis only work if the person is human and 3 dimensional?Rachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11897760883997811787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-90176381180420367982007-09-17T04:11:00.000-04:002007-09-17T04:11:00.000-04:00I haven't seen any 24, although I've read a previo...I haven't seen any 24, although I've read a previous spoiler here on the blog. But I'm going to actually get into 24, and Prison Break (probably prison break first as it only has one older season so far, and then I'd be up with what's going on; I like Amazon unbox on Tivo, esp. since I got some free credits there.)<BR/><BR/>First use of those was a weekend without the little one, and we unboxed the first two Bourne movies, then the night before picking dd up we saw the third in theatres (this series rocks! Now there's a guy w/some interesting psych/pathology, especially given his amnesia). The first two were on sale for cheap for probably the exact use we put them to, and it was great!<BR/><BR/>Anyway. I'd get caught up on Alias, except the wierdness in the season I did see sporadically near the end, just seems . .. well, ok, if they're on a mysterious island, yeah, but c'mon (yeah, it's tv.)<BR/><BR/>Clink, I may email you w/my observations or questions raised about prison as they show it, once I've caught up on PB. (where's the jelly, mmmm . . .)<BR/><BR/>I have a nephew, 19, with Asperger's, so this is more than academic to me, and yet, I take no offense or anything personal or over the line (like I'm the judge of that, not) at all in this "exercise".<BR/><BR/>Since it's not ok to speculate publically as licensed shrinks, in depth like this, about cases such as Lindsay Lohan or Olsen Twins' anorexia or bulimia, fictional characters are the way to go. And I found it interesting, especially your reasonings back and forth on the matter.<BR/><BR/>If her char WAS intended to be AS, especially without glamourising it, it's a shame they didn't stick with that.<BR/><BR/>Dinah, lol at what your daughter said. Teens are rather more perceptive than often given credit for, thanks for relating that experience.Sarebearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09208596053319110470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-1787585187967486862007-09-16T17:27:00.000-04:002007-09-16T17:27:00.000-04:00Thanks for the kind words Otherwhys.Dinah I didn't...Thanks for the kind words Otherwhys.<BR/><BR/>Dinah I didn't blow you off last night. I wasn't the one who mentioned pizza, but now that you've brought it up that sounds delicious...<BR/><BR/>I've seen one episode apiece for both Lost and 24. Now if you wanted to discuss the character Haywire from Prison Break, that would be a totally different story.ClinkShrinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13316134491751195651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-55132014980890766642007-09-16T14:17:00.000-04:002007-09-16T14:17:00.000-04:00Clink: If you hadn't blown me off last night, I wo...Clink: If you hadn't blown me off last night, I wouldn't have had so much time on my hands.<BR/><BR/>Otherwhys: It isn't very scientific at all. It also isn't particularly useful. <BR/><BR/>It is kind of fun when it's to spark a discussion about a TV show/character.<BR/><BR/>Input from the peanut gallery-- my younger teenybopper started reading the post, read through schizoid and borderline criteria and said "She doesn't have either of these." Got through the Asperger's criteria, said "That's what it sounds like. Maybe she's just a weird person."<BR/><BR/>Then: "Is this what psychiatrists do for fun? Try to figure out what's wrong with TV Characters?"<BR/><BR/>Yup. Maybe we're just weird people.Dinahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09227988351623862689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-4317883341114539422007-09-16T13:54:00.000-04:002007-09-16T13:54:00.000-04:00"..who clearly has interpersonal difficulties, and..."..who clearly has interpersonal difficulties, and try to understand where this is coming from." Fair enough, but to diagnose borderline personality disorder or schizoid personality disorder still does not shed any light on where these difficulties are coming from. It makes me sad because the DSM is so flawed and it is all about putting people into slots and obviously different docs will choose different slots depending upon their own perception, which may or may not be accurate. It isn't very scientific at all.Otherwhyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10226311893682355316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-78467073053138823312007-09-16T12:51:00.000-04:002007-09-16T12:51:00.000-04:00I don't watch "24," so I can't comment on Chloe. B...I don't watch "24," so I can't comment on Chloe. But if you ever want to do a post on the psychodynamics of Detective Stabler (of "SVU"), hoo boy, I'm there.Gerbilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05908487212760713496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-79157385747673257542007-09-16T11:59:00.000-04:002007-09-16T11:59:00.000-04:00Otherwhys: no, not meant to be funny, as in ha-ha....Otherwhys: no, not meant to be funny, as in ha-ha. I used the word "fun" in the sense of trying to take a character portrayal, who clearly has interpersonal difficulties, and try to understand where this is coming from. The first step is to be able to parse out the different elements of her portrayed personality.<BR/><BR/>So, this post shouldn't make one laugh, it should make one think. Think about how one begins to look at behavior and personality (or, how one begins to write a screenplay or to act this out) and parse out the different elements.<BR/><BR/>Great points, Alison, especially about pointing out the evolution of Mary Lynn's character as the writers change. BTW, this actress is also a comedian, and really quite funny. Catch some of her talk show appearances on YouTube.Royhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08735111026336537653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-64802853537898443502007-09-16T11:10:00.000-04:002007-09-16T11:10:00.000-04:00I watched Series 2 and 3, maybe 4. In the ones I w...I watched Series 2 and 3, maybe 4. In the ones I watched she seemed to have ordinary uncomplicated Asperger's. I thought she was great, and thought it was terrific to be seeing Aspies on screen - and without excessively glamourising them! <BR/><BR/>Since Asperger's was the flavour of the moment at the time the series was developed, I assumed that the Chloe character had been written with AS specifically in mind.<BR/><BR/>However, in more recent series she has been sexed up a bit and given more social skills. (So I hear.) I think the screenwriter changed, and whoever is producing the series doesn't necessarily care that much about portraying AS - they have just designated Chloe as the wonky character.<BR/><BR/>So I think you need to diagnose the Chloe in each individual series separately. The Chloe in Series 5 isn't necessarily the same person as the Chloe in Series 2.<BR/><BR/>As far as AS and sex - AS folks do have sex lives. AS women may have babies young because they are vulnerable to sexual exploitation. Autism spectrum disorders are more common in the children of older fathers, and one explanation is that AS men are more likely to have children when they are older than when they are younger. They aren't particularly sexy when young. As they age they become more socially experienced and the women looking for spouses in their late thirties are more interested in breadwinner-type characteristics and predictability than they were in their twenties.Alison Cumminshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06370841996857073237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-50605193033170786492007-09-16T11:09:00.000-04:002007-09-16T11:09:00.000-04:00Clink rocks. She totally rules and I bet she also ...Clink rocks. She totally rules and I bet she also rolls with the punches.<BR/>Maybe I am the only one but this post made me sad. Maybe it was meant to be funny but it didn't make me laugh. It made me sad.I will just go off now and roll with the punches.Otherwhyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10226311893682355316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26666124.post-75853799281077834052007-09-16T10:56:00.000-04:002007-09-16T10:56:00.000-04:00OK, I think you both have far too much time on you...OK, I think you both have far too much time on your hands...ClinkShrinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13316134491751195651noreply@blogger.com